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    Quote Originally Posted by arteteca View Post
    You can have a printer of one dollar or one of thousand the way to do a color profile is always the same.......
    but the print results are not the same!

    and that is all what counts!

    ever wondered why there are different priced profiling apps?

    there is a huge difference in profile quality depending on the used software!

    and this affects the print quality too!

    but hey, its like all aspects in life: you get what you pay for and nothing is for free!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spider View Post
    but the print results are not the same!

    and that is all what counts!

    ever wondered why there are different priced profiling apps?

    there is a huge difference in profile quality depending on the used software!

    and this affects the print quality too!

    but hey, its like all aspects in life: you get what you pay for and nothing is for free!
    Meanwhile, the important thing is to get the best from what you have....

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    Quote Originally Posted by arteteca View Post
    Meanwhile, the important thing is to get the best from what you have....
    you cant produce good quality if you dont meet the technical requirements!

    especially in printing neutral grey colors!

    ever heard of OBA/OBC and metamerism?

    if the printing substrate has OBA (most cheap papers do!) you can trash all your measurements with i1pro since it doesnt read UV colorants reliably.

    and metamerism depends very strong on cheap inks and paper!

    using a RGB workflow the color separation is done by the printing machine. you can create as many profiles as you like, the black channel generation is still done inside the printer and wont change at all. you have no possibilty to determine the replacement of neutral grey color values by solid black ink!

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    Ok ...
    What's the solution to print with the best possible grays, files with heterogen color profiles. The fastest possible (not because i'm lasy but because the customers want their plans fast !) ?

    With the machines that i have now, canon ipf, i1pro, ...
    A good rip for cad files ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikevlo View Post
    Ok ...
    What's the solution to print with the best possible grays, files with heterogen color profiles. The fastest possible (not because i'm lasy but because the customers want their plans fast !) ?

    With the machines that i have now, canon ipf, i1pro, ...
    A good rip for cad files ?
    why dont you test the equipment BEFORE purchasing?

    canon printers are NOT suitable for consistent color reproduction!

    here is a comprehensive article about printing neutral grayscales:

    http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/printing-greyscale-images-and-removing-unwanted-colour-tints/

    the author tested with ipf8300 and has no perfect solution as the ink appears very different under different light sources.

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    Once you get your instrument, you should look into the G7 methodology. It's great for getting a good grayscale on all your media types.

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